Rifle Scopes : ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions

August 19, 2019, 2:27 am

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Author: RifleDude
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 09:27

Rancid Coolaid wrote: I would say the probability is high that the scope was not made by Zeiss. The Zeiss symbol looks wrong, the color looks wrong, and the markings look wrong, and the mounting system looks wrong. Or maybe it is me that is wrong. Before I dropped money on it, I'd do some research.

Based on the photos alone, that's a legit Zeiss scope. That's the old Zeiss logo used on scopes from 20-25 years ago. I have a scope from that era that has the same logo. They've changed the logo used on scopes multiple times. I'm familiar with at least 5 different logos used over the years, of which that is one of them. That semi-glossy "painted" type finish is correct for the Diavari Z series made sometime during the mid - 1980's - 90's period. The mounting system is the Zeiss rail, which was popular in Europe, much harder to find in the US.

As for the scope's worth, if it is in very good condition, I've seen them go for $750 - $850 USD. I would say if you can get it for something less than $750, you got a pretty good deal.

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August 19, 2019, 2:53 am

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Author: jaspar4
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 09:53

So it seems like a good deal at the current price.Thank you.

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August 19, 2019, 2:55 am

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Author: Rancid Coolaid
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 09:55

I would definitely weight Rifledude's view on this above mine. In the 80s, I was in jr. high.

I recall their proprietary mounting system from several years ago, and recall that many stayed away due to concern over long-term parts availability.

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August 19, 2019, 3:38 am

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Author: cbm
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 10:38

I don't know anything about that particular scope. But my father in law gave me all of his guns and scopes about 20 years ago. One of the scopes was a Zeiss Daital 4x32. I had it up until about 10 years ago and I sold it in about 1-2 days on Ebay for $350 which freaked me out at the time. It was a great little scope and out performed a Burris Fulfield I had back then , I think the Burris was a 2.5-10x50 or 3-9x50. The little Zeiss was a good bit better in low light. Logos look the same to me as the one I used to have.

 

I still have a pair of Zeiss Dialyt 7x42 which are a nice set of binoculars even now. They are very bright but fatigue my eyes a lot easier than the Leica's I normally use. I can only glass about 4-5 minutes with the old Zeiss in low light and I can sit behind the Leica's untill I am tired of holding them. But other than that, the Zeiss are very impressive, even though they are from the 80's.

 

I would be fine getting one of those scopes. The rail deal would be my only hang up, but I have never used one either.

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August 19, 2019, 3:38 am

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Author: Sgt. D
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 10:38

Welcome to the OT!

 

Have you considered what you will need to do ($$$) to mount it to an American style rifle??

I'm not familiar with that mounting system and suspect it will require modification by a gunsmith to give you a solid reliable mount. As for the Diavari series it is a very high quality glass and turret set.

 

Good Luck!

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August 19, 2019, 3:56 am

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Author: RifleDude
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 10:56

It's no problem mounting that scope to any rifle, and doing so isn't much more expensive than using traditional ring style mounts. SWFA sells mounts for the Zeiss rail that attach to picatinny bases. Mounts are readily available for it, especially in Europe. I think the rail mount is a great idea and results in a very solid mounting setup while providing a lot of mount spacing latitude. Zeiss, S&B, Swarovski, Kahles, and a few other Euro scope manufacturers all offer rail mount versions of their scopes. Rail mounts have just never been very popular in the US for some reason, likely due to the added cost to an already expensive scope.

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August 19, 2019, 4:19 am

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Author: RifleDude
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 11:19

RifleDude wrote: SWFA sells mounts for the Zeiss rail that attach to picatinny bases.

Or, at least they did offer them until fairly recently, obviously reflecting the lack of popularity of this mounting style in the US. I just checked online, and they are available from various sources.

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August 19, 2019, 4:28 am

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Author: jaspar4
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 11:28

Thank you very much for the info!

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August 19, 2019, 4:29 am

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Author: jaspar4
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 11:29

Glad to be here , among you knowledgeable people.

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August 19, 2019, 4:31 am

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Author: RifleDude
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 11:31

Welcome to OT, Jaspar!

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August 19, 2019, 5:21 am

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Author: Scrumbag
Subject: ZEISS DIAVARI-Z 2.5-10x52 opinions
Posted: August/19/2019 at 12:21

Rancid Coolaid wrote: I recall their proprietary mounting system from several years ago, and recall that many stayed away due to concern over long-term parts availability.

IN the US maybe buddy. Only been going in Europe longer than I've been alive (Probably getting to 50 years now)

Scrummy

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August 19, 2019, 5:24 am

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Author: Scrumbag
Subject: what scope for a .50 beowulf
Posted: August/19/2019 at 12:24

Maverick2 wrote: Anybody have experience with this scope for the OP's application, or thoughts on the reticle for use in hunting? This scope has always intrigued me for quick shots in timber/brush but I've never seen one. https://www.swfa.com/meopta-1-4x22-zd-30mm-rifle-scope-105820.html?___SID=U

It will be a nice scope but again really not great in low light such as under trees in the brush...

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August 19, 2019, 6:56 am

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Author: .204hunter
Subject: what scope for a .50 beowulf
Posted: August/19/2019 at 13:56

i will look into vortex and the like, Im in the Waterloo area

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August 19, 2019, 7:00 am

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Author: .204hunter
Subject: what scope for a .50 beowulf
Posted: August/19/2019 at 14:00

sorry, yes it is an ar15 platform

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August 19, 2019, 8:55 am

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Author: Rancid Coolaid
Subject: Scope suggestion
Posted: August/19/2019 at 15:55

LustGush wrote: You don't need to be an optical physicist to have an above-average understanding of how hunting optics and scopes work and how to use that knowledge to make a good purchase. That said, scopes are incredibly complex devices that rely on a myriad of moving parts and principles to function properly.

Did you accomplish with that post what you were hoping to accomplish with it?

Just curious.

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August 19, 2019, 9:09 am

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Author: Tip69
Subject: what scope for a .50 beowulf
Posted: August/19/2019 at 16:09

.204hunter wrote: i will look into vortex and the like, Im in the Waterloo area

Blain's Farm and Fleet is a pretty cool store up in Cedar Falls.

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August 19, 2019, 9:35 am

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Author: Tip69
Subject: Scope suggestion
Posted: August/19/2019 at 16:35

I came late to this party... but just wanted to say one thing.  I have a Kahles 50mm with a plain ole plex reticle and I also hunt from 30 mins before to 30 mins after and I have never needed a lit reticle since I started hunting with it.  I can see past 30 mins even... both the target and the reticle.  I was 54 yrs old last season.   FWTW

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Author: frozentundra
Subject: NEW SWFA SS 2.5-10x32 Ultralight Rifle Scope
Posted: August/21/2019 at 11:30

Any chance of listing the BCD and wind hold subtensions in MOA?  I currently have this scope on a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62x39.    

I'm thinking that the BDC may line up acceptably for Golden Tiger with a 160 yard zeroing scheme as follows:  200, 225, 250, 300, 325, 350 with some rounding/fudging to simplify.  This is based off the comments section on ILya's website where he listed 1, 2.1, 3.5, 5, 6.7, 8.5 as probable MOA subtensions for the drops.

I was using .310(G1)BC (as estimated by Rob Ski from AK operators union) for the unusual Boat Tail FMJ used in the 124 grain Golden Tiger @ 2350 fps.   1.8" scope height.  

According to Strelok, there shouldn't really be over 2.5" of vertical error at any given distance using these numbers.  From 0-250 it should be withing 1.65" or so.  

This would also yield a maximum point blank range of 180 yards where the projectile would be within 1.65" of point of aim (hitting 1.65" high from 90-100 yards would be mostly offset by using the 100 yard hold-under point).  At 190 yards the bullet would drop 2" bellow point of aim, and at 200 it would be getting toward 2.9"(1.3 MOA) where the first BDC hash would mostly correct.  

If I haven't messed anything up too badly, some permutation of this zeroing scheme could probably be used for various 16"-18" rifle/7.62x39-300 blackout load combinations with this scope.  

Somebody please let me know if I screwed up.   

  

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August 21, 2019, 4:57 am

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Author: koshkin
Subject: NEW SWFA SS 2.5-10x32 Ultralight Rifle Scope
Posted: August/21/2019 at 11:57

The subtensions on my website are correct, to the best of my knowledge.  That did not change in the latest version of the reticle.

I think your math is generally correct.  I originally ran some simulations on how this reticle would work with other calibers and I think you calculations are very close to what I came with for 7.62x39 and 300 Blackout.

Naturally, you will want to confirm this on paper.  In practical terms, if you are getting correct hits at 300, the rest of the curve will mostly fall in. 

ILya

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Author: BlackSox16
Subject: Magnus 1.5-10×42 plex vs z6 1.7-10×42
Posted: August/21/2019 at 15:38

More of a curiosity question here as I am not in the position to buy either at this time.  I would be looking to purchase one of the above maybe in the next year or so for a rem 700 AWR in 7mm or 300 mag. Anyways what would you guys recommend?  I've read here I think, that Swarovski customer service is much better but both oustanding scopes.  Keep in mind I am not interested in illuminated or fancy reticles, I prefer basic plex style reticles and the 4a they offer is too wide for my tastes.  I do believe I could save about $400 or 500 going with the Leica.  I am very interested in a Leica branded riflescope.  I already have a Swaro PH 2.5-10×42.  FFP though...not a fan of this since I'm not a long range shooter...at least yet haha.  The Swaro is an excellent scope still btw.